Comparing Version 0 to Version 1:
Synopsis:
Episode 22:
CRYING / 暗転 = Anten; for its double meaning see[j2e:暗転<a href="http://www.df.lth.se/cgi-bin/j-e/jis/S=48/FG=b/BG=w/dosearch?sDict=on&H=PS&L=J&T=%1B%24B0EE%3E%1B(B&WC=none">here</a>]. | here]. I would use the second option, hinting at both AMP's status and Ganossa's achievement in this episode.<br>
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Katsumi seems to be in anguish over Lebia being seriously injured, but Mana and Rally wonder if she may have intentionally caused the accident herself. They fear that she has been possessed by the demon sword "Medium", and staged the crash to remove the most skillful defender of the Police computer files. This would enable Ganossa to seize the "Avalanche" file about Project Gaea--something he absolutely needs.
CRYING / 暗転 = Anten; for its double meaning see
<br>
Katsumi seems to be in anguish over Lebia being seriously injured, but Mana and Rally wonder if she may have intentionally caused the accident herself. They fear that she has been possessed by the demon sword "Medium", and staged the crash to remove the most skillful defender of the Police computer files. This would enable Ganossa to seize the "Avalanche" file about Project Gaea--something he absolutely needs.
Comments:
<b>[reviewer:628|Stretch]:Stretch:</b><br>
If Katsumi has been possessed by a "demon sword", might Grosspoliner be an effective antidote? When Katsumi drew her sword (was that Medium?) on Mana in the Giga-room, I was thinking that maybe Mana would produce Grospoliner in response, but it didn't happen. At the scene of Roy's death, didn't it occur to Yuki that she was walking right into the deadly situation that she had seen in her dream? I thought that maybe she would tell the others to remain out of sight and watch what happened when she approached Katsumi, but again that didn't happen; I guess she has too much trust in her. The impression I'm getting of the series as a whole is of a really neat story which didn't get as good an anime presentation as it deserved. Finally, when I saw a red-haired woman embracing Ganossa at the end of the last episode, I assumed that it must be Rally (which would make her some sort of spy/saboteur). But I see now that the "evil" Katsumi is marked by red hair.<br>
<br>
<b>[reviewer:752|DevilDevil Doll]:Doll:</b><br>
With the course of events becoming ever more complex now, episode 22
begins
with a
short recap of episode 21, as both are a kind of double feature again. And
you'll get
information about elements that haven't been explained up to now: Time for
answers!<br>
<br>
We've seen Ma-ken Medium and Grospoliner battling each other already - in
[episode:580#20|episode 20] when Rosa attacked Rally and Grospoliner interfered
without anyone calling for him.
Grospoliner defended Rally (not Mana) - he knows Rally from the days 30 years ago.
But the only one whom he is <i>linked to</i> (by a contract of blood!) is - Katsumi.
They're both "a part of each other"... so how could he try to hurt that girl?<br>
<br>
It's easy to say that Yuki should be more careful - but look at things from her point
of view. Yuki thinks of Katsumi as her closest friend; both grew up without that much
of a family (elaborated in more detail in [series:633]). Remember why she invited
Lum Cheng? To prevent Lum Cheng from getting closer to Katsumi! Yuki is jealous of Lum
Cheng, that's how important Katsumi is for her. It was Yuki who helped Katsumi to
find her place within the AMP ([episode:580#4|episode 4]), and it was Yuki who
was the "target" of Katsumi's "attack" in [episode:580#21|episode 21] (which she
experienced as Katsumi saving her from that LH's attack - you now see how important
it was that Katsumi brought that wine along so that neither Nami nor Yuki would be
able to do what they can do best...).
Remember how Yuki dealt with Annie back in [episode:580#10|episode 10], and look how
even the tough and skeptical Kiddy was disgusted by her own behavior near the end of
episode 21. Yuki is the youngest and least mature AMP member, and unlike Kiddy she
hasn't heard what Mana said about Katsumi. What's more, Rally and Mana keep a lot of
secrets and didn't tell the AMP members about Ma-ken Medium, for example. Yuki trusts
Katsumi, and what's more, she <i>wants</i> Katsumi to be trustworthy. Mistrusting her
best friend would violate everything Yuki stands for.<br>
<br>
Back in [episode:580#15|episode 15], I wrote: <i>"This 'small object' is one of several
plausibility issues of the series."</i> Now you can see what I mean: The content of that
box is a necessary requirement for Ganossa to proceed with his plan. Why didn't Rally
simply destroy it? It's not like the AMP would try to make any use of these data.
Another plausibility issue that I can now mention is: Obviously there is <i>some</i>
way of moving around in time (for example, Rosa talking to Tooru at the end of
[episode:580#16|episode 16]). It's never fully explained how that works and how much
control the protagonists have over it, but <i>if they had</i> it would cause a myriad
of questions, such as: Why didn't they attack Avalanche Wong to get those data? Or why
didn't they travel back in time to the Silent Crisis and steal them there where no
AMP would hinder them? This whole jumping around in time creates quite a plausibility
mess, so the best we can do is assume that there is no full control about these moves
and they can happen only by "fate" in certain crucial situations (Katsumi talking to
Fuyuka back in [episode:580#13|episode 13], remember? Try to guess when that
conversation takes place in Katsumi's time line...).<br>
<br>
as for Silent Möbius in total: I agree wholeheartedly. It's a neat story. But the anime
version is much better than the manga in terms of storytelling (the manga contains all
the ideas but neither a plausible sequence nor that element of linking everything together,
using parts that look like side stories to actually prepare elements that will become crucial
several episodes later, and the parallel developments that the final arc mainly relies on.
The manga tells story in an almost random order during its first half and is more sequential
in the second one, and as such much less surprising in its development (and strange enough,
Asamiya Kia got famous for the manga). So in my eyes the anime is a huge improvement over
the manga, while at the same time requiring to read the original story to fully understand
what happened. Which is exactly what I did in Silent Möbius.
Remember the "Director's Cut" versions of Evangelion episodes 21-24? Doing something
like that with Silent Möbius would be so great, providing the missing background every
now and then... this is what I'm trying to do with our conversation and those postings
as you need certain information early in order to not get frustrated by this series.<br>
<br>
Certainly the anime lacks explanations and plausibility of several concepts in general, but the storytelling, the forming of suspense, is what makes the second half
a chilling ride for me, much like GitS SAC1 which might come closest in both terms of
narration form and main protagonists (a special police force). Then again, Silent Möbius
uses very different topics such as Love and Trust where GitS is much "colder" in its
message; the GitS characters are excellent performers - but is any of them likable?
GitS is pure cyberpunk; Silent Möbius has elements of Magic and Fate that make it
different (and similar to Night Wizard indeed).
For Silent Möbius the question of the characters being likable is so crucial because the
audience has to face them being tortured - Katsumi losing Roy, Yuki losing her time with
Tooru, Kiddy almost killing Ralph... how many more victims will we get? (In Mai HiME you
can simply count the remaining girls to answer this question, so there's no suspense
about this aspect, you simply know the result beforehand. But after both Roy had to face
the death of his best friend Aida and then Katsumi had to face the death of her beloved
Roy right when she made her decision for him despite her own nature, everything seems
to be possible now. The whole middle section from episode 12 to 20 saw Katsumi suffering.)<br>
<br>
I'm still waiting for your bet on who'll become the hero of this show... this is the time
to guess, you're not getting another chance as you'll have to make up your mind before
you'll see the hints - both the true ones and the false ones... beginning in episode 23.
<br>
After [episode:580#17|episode 17], Stretch pointed out the <i>"Hawk's new strategy
of picking off AMP members one by one rather than taking on the team as a whole;
they're 0 for 2 so far."</i> What about doing the maths again about this aspect now?<br>
<br>
As for the 30 seconds previews at the end of each episode, beware:<br>
Preview for episode 23: SPOILERISH - DON'T WATCH!<br>
<br>
If Katsumi has been possessed by a "demon sword", might Grosspoliner be an effective antidote? When Katsumi drew her sword (was that Medium?) on Mana in the Giga-room, I was thinking that maybe Mana would produce Grospoliner in response, but it didn't happen. At the scene of Roy's death, didn't it occur to Yuki that she was walking right into the deadly situation that she had seen in her dream? I thought that maybe she would tell the others to remain out of sight and watch what happened when she approached Katsumi, but again that didn't happen; I guess she has too much trust in her. The impression I'm getting of the series as a whole is of a really neat story which didn't get as good an anime presentation as it deserved. Finally, when I saw a red-haired woman embracing Ganossa at the end of the last episode, I assumed that it must be Rally (which would make her some sort of spy/saboteur). But I see now that the "evil" Katsumi is marked by red hair.<br>
<br>
<b>
With the course of events becoming ever more complex now, episode 22
begins
with a
short recap of episode 21, as both are a kind of double feature again. And
you'll get
information about elements that haven't been explained up to now: Time for
answers!<br>
<br>
We've seen Ma-ken Medium and Grospoliner battling each other already - in
[episode:580#20|episode 20] when Rosa attacked Rally and Grospoliner interfered
without anyone calling for him.
Grospoliner defended Rally (not Mana) - he knows Rally from the days 30 years ago.
But the only one whom he is <i>linked to</i> (by a contract of blood!) is - Katsumi.
They're both "a part of each other"... so how could he try to hurt that girl?<br>
<br>
It's easy to say that Yuki should be more careful - but look at things from her point
of view. Yuki thinks of Katsumi as her closest friend; both grew up without that much
of a family (elaborated in more detail in [series:633]). Remember why she invited
Lum Cheng? To prevent Lum Cheng from getting closer to Katsumi! Yuki is jealous of Lum
Cheng, that's how important Katsumi is for her. It was Yuki who helped Katsumi to
find her place within the AMP ([episode:580#4|episode 4]), and it was Yuki who
was the "target" of Katsumi's "attack" in [episode:580#21|episode 21] (which she
experienced as Katsumi saving her from that LH's attack - you now see how important
it was that Katsumi brought that wine along so that neither Nami nor Yuki would be
able to do what they can do best...).
Remember how Yuki dealt with Annie back in [episode:580#10|episode 10], and look how
even the tough and skeptical Kiddy was disgusted by her own behavior near the end of
episode 21. Yuki is the youngest and least mature AMP member, and unlike Kiddy she
hasn't heard what Mana said about Katsumi. What's more, Rally and Mana keep a lot of
secrets and didn't tell the AMP members about Ma-ken Medium, for example. Yuki trusts
Katsumi, and what's more, she <i>wants</i> Katsumi to be trustworthy. Mistrusting her
best friend would violate everything Yuki stands for.<br>
<br>
Back in [episode:580#15|episode 15], I wrote: <i>"This 'small object' is one of several
plausibility issues of the series."</i> Now you can see what I mean: The content of that
box is a necessary requirement for Ganossa to proceed with his plan. Why didn't Rally
simply destroy it? It's not like the AMP would try to make any use of these data.
Another plausibility issue that I can now mention is: Obviously there is <i>some</i>
way of moving around in time (for example, Rosa talking to Tooru at the end of
[episode:580#16|episode 16]). It's never fully explained how that works and how much
control the protagonists have over it, but <i>if they had</i> it would cause a myriad
of questions, such as: Why didn't they attack Avalanche Wong to get those data? Or why
didn't they travel back in time to the Silent Crisis and steal them there where no
AMP would hinder them? This whole jumping around in time creates quite a plausibility
mess, so the best we can do is assume that there is no full control about these moves
and they can happen only by "fate" in certain crucial situations (Katsumi talking to
Fuyuka back in [episode:580#13|episode 13], remember? Try to guess when that
conversation takes place in Katsumi's time line...).<br>
<br>
as for Silent Möbius in total: I agree wholeheartedly. It's a neat story. But the anime
version is much better than the manga in terms of storytelling (the manga contains all
the ideas but neither a plausible sequence nor that element of linking everything together,
using parts that look like side stories to actually prepare elements that will become crucial
several episodes later, and the parallel developments that the final arc mainly relies on.
The manga tells story in an almost random order during its first half and is more sequential
in the second one, and as such much less surprising in its development (and strange enough,
Asamiya Kia got famous for the manga). So in my eyes the anime is a huge improvement over
the manga, while at the same time requiring to read the original story to fully understand
what happened. Which is exactly what I did in Silent Möbius.
Remember the "Director's Cut" versions of Evangelion episodes 21-24? Doing something
like that with Silent Möbius would be so great, providing the missing background every
now and then... this is what I'm trying to do with our conversation and those postings
as you need certain information early in order to not get frustrated by this series.<br>
<br>
Certainly the anime lacks explanations and plausibility of several concepts in general, but the storytelling, the forming of suspense, is what makes the second half
a chilling ride for me, much like GitS SAC1 which might come closest in both terms of
narration form and main protagonists (a special police force). Then again, Silent Möbius
uses very different topics such as Love and Trust where GitS is much "colder" in its
message; the GitS characters are excellent performers - but is any of them likable?
GitS is pure cyberpunk; Silent Möbius has elements of Magic and Fate that make it
different (and similar to Night Wizard indeed).
For Silent Möbius the question of the characters being likable is so crucial because the
audience has to face them being tortured - Katsumi losing Roy, Yuki losing her time with
Tooru, Kiddy almost killing Ralph... how many more victims will we get? (In Mai HiME you
can simply count the remaining girls to answer this question, so there's no suspense
about this aspect, you simply know the result beforehand. But after both Roy had to face
the death of his best friend Aida and then Katsumi had to face the death of her beloved
Roy right when she made her decision for him despite her own nature, everything seems
to be possible now. The whole middle section from episode 12 to 20 saw Katsumi suffering.)<br>
<br>
I'm still waiting for your bet on who'll become the hero of this show... this is the time
to guess, you're not getting another chance as you'll have to make up your mind before
you'll see the hints - both the true ones and the false ones... beginning in episode 23.
<br>
After [episode:580#17|episode 17], Stretch pointed out the <i>"Hawk's new strategy
of picking off AMP members one by one rather than taking on the team as a whole;
they're 0 for 2 so far."</i> What about doing the maths again about this aspect now?<br>
<br>
As for the 30 seconds previews at the end of each episode, beware:<br>
Preview for episode 23: SPOILERISH - DON'T WATCH!<br>
<br>
